neil: what do you think of your successor, kathleen sebelius, do you think she should go? >> i don't think that is up to me to say. neil: go ahead. >> no, no, she has a lot of problems and, i think you know, she needs to try to find a way to solv some of the problem. neil: but she is not, i am not trying to target her but she is in charge of department in charge of biggest rework. and fairly or not she botched it roll out either she was not prepared for it or they were not prepared with key i-t people or medical people, it is a sloppy debut, in private enterprise she would be out. >> yes, she would, when we rolled out part d he tested everything, week after week, any time we had a problem, we retested it, they just didn't do that. as a result they had a roll out that was not very nice. and solved -- or solved any of the problem. neil: that is putting it mildly, tommy thompson thank you, sir. >> neil thank you. neil: is it me or when you look at washington and politicians, if there plenty out there, they will find a way to spend it that is why president clinton a let'sist c